Need Help in Identifying these shoots (aureosulcata) & poison ivy discussion

[Bamabamboo]

These shoots are coming up in amongst a lot of P. Vivax......I can't figure out what it is.......any ideas?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture123.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture125.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture126.jpg

[CaroleMeckes]

Those sure are some beautiful shoots.
Could it be Phyllostachys aureosulcata 'Spectabilis'?
Carole

[Bamabamboo]

Strike that......YOU'RE RIGHT CAROLE!!!!!.......It is P. Aureosulcata

[cngodles]

Looks to be some lovely poison ivy to the right of the bottom picture. I've gotten it twice digging from a large grove I know of.

Yeah, those look like mature Yellow Groove to me.

[Dean W.]

That's a beautiful bamboo. I like the coloration on the shoots.

Dean

[Bamabamboo]

Looks to be some lovely poison ivy to the right of the bottom picture. I've gotten it twice digging from a large grove I know of.

Yeah, those look like mature Yellow Groove to me.



Funny you should mention that (Poison ivy).......for the lask week, a Bottle of Calamine Lotion has followed me everywhere I went.....My arms are PINK from the calamine.....The People at work are keeping their distance from me as though I have the FLU....lol

[TexasGrower]

Funny you should mention that (Poison ivy).......for the lask week, a Bottle of Calamine Lotion has followed me everywhere I went.....My arms are PINK from the calamine.....The People at work are keeping their distance from me as though I have the FLU....lol

Wash your skin with dish soap. Get the oils off your body and it will go away.

[cngodles]

Dish soap only works at first. The oil chemically binds to your skin in a short amount of time.

As for my favorite cure, hit the area with scalding hot water, as hot as you can stand. That activates all of the histamine in your body in that area leaving you with a good bit of itch free time. Histamine is what causes the ichyness.

[TexasGrower]

Dish soap only works at first.


The general rule is that you wash with the dish soap BEFORE it appears, but it has worked for me after wards too.... twice last year.

[Dean W.]

There has been a time or two when I have been out in the woods and didn't have any soap. I would rub my hands or the part of my body that was touched with dirt. It helps absorb the oils from your skin. I agree with Texas Grower, wash before it appears. Because once you have the symptoms it's to late.

I have some that I need to get rid of this weekend. Thankfully, there just seedlings. I'll have to put on some latex gloves and pull them out or spray with Round Up. Which I only use for Poison Ivy.

Dean

[cngodles]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urushiol-induced_contact_dermatitis

[ShmuBamboo]

Nice size aureosulcatas. There are a lot of types though. Are they turning out to be a particular type?

As for poison ivy (PI) and poison oak (PO), use cheap shampoo to get rid of the oil within 12 hours of exposure. Cheap shampoo (ie., Suave) has a lot of laurel sulphate that dissolves the oil well. You can also get this stuff called Tecnu, which is a mix of mineral spirits and surfactants that is specifically designed to dissolve the PO and PI (and poison sumac) oils. Once the oils fix to your skin, you may get a reaction that is similar to organ transplant rejection (poison oak and ivy rash is not a true allergy reaction, as many think). Basically your body wants to get rid of the skin that has been afflicted with the oils. Use hydrocortisone cream to reduce the rash effect and itch. It takes about a week for the skin with the oil attached to shead, and the source of the reaction to go away. In some people the reaction continues long after that time though. My brother used to have to get hydrocortisome shots if he came in contact with PO. Otherwise his entire body would swell up in hives.

As for spraying PO or PI, I would use something like 2,4-D on broad leaf plants in bamboos. Basically lawn weed killer. This is because while 2,4-D is a growth inhibitor and will kill broadleaf plants, it is basically a fertilizer to monocots and grasses, including bamboo. Roundup can kill bamboo, and just about anything that is comes in contact with (except blackberries and hearty woody plants and weeds). PO and PI are not really that suseptible to Roundup from my experience spraying them with that. Garlon and Crossbow are far more effective. Crossbow is a mix of Garlon and 2,4-D. Also you need to spray PO and PI when the leaves are green in the spring and summer. In the fall, once the color sets in (turns orange or red), they have set the absission layer and any spray on the leaves will not be picked up by the plant.

[akant23]

These shoot are the young culms of P.vivax

These shoots are coming up in amongst a lot of P. Vivax......I can't figure out what it is.......any ideas?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture123.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture125.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/rottweilerdoberman/Bamboo/Picture126.jpg

[bambookid524]

I dont know why but I just don't get poison ivy. It is weird. Last year I was going through my aureosulcata with a friend and he pointed out that I had just walked through a huge patch of it with shorts on. I didn;t do anything and didn't get it.

I tested it a few times by just touching it, and nothing. Same for poison Oak.

It works for me :).

[ShmuBamboo]

I dont know why but I just don't get poison ivy. It is weird. Last year I was going through my aureosulcata with a friend and he pointed out that I had just walked through a huge patch of it with shorts on. I didn;t do anything and didn't get it.

I tested it a few times by just touching it, and nothing. Same for poison Oak.

It works for me :).

Well, there is job security for you. Weeding PI and PO. I get a rash where PO contacts my skin, but it does not spread. Or rather, I do not develop a big reaction to it other than locally. I can ID it any time of year though, and I avoid it whenever possible.

Funny though, I do get itchy when I work with bamboo in bare skin. Same thing when feeding hay to the sheep here. Grass allergy?

[bambookid524]

You probably do have a grass allergy. I know I do. Anytime anybody is cutting their lawn in the spring and I walk by, I sneeze beyond belief. Non-stop sneezing and I get very itchy. Same for hay. If I handle it, I start to get itchy.

No problems w/ bamboo yet.

-Steve

[Bamabamboo]

These shoot are the young culms of P.vivax

I thought we decided it was Phyllostachys aurea.....It is very confusing because its growing amongst P. Vivax.....but I'm fairly certain it's Phyllostachys aurea.

P. Vivax shoots looks TOTALLY different

[CaroleMeckes]

Hi Bamabamboo,
Aureosulcata looks very different from vivax.

When you visit the grove next time - check out that culm and see what it has grown into. That should settle the id.

The new shoots definitely looked like P aureosulcata.
Carole